Started watching the video not planning on actually making it, saw that it is done with A4 paper and grabbed a random sheet at my desk to follow along. The pocket felt like a nice "a-ha!" moment. As someone who only knew the "naive" way to make paper airplanes from A4 paper, this is the best performing and prettiest paper airplane I've made in my life! It almost feels like it's not real how smoothly it stays straight in the air compared to all my paper airplanes in childhood.
Edit: Tried making the flapping wings AeroDactyl but it didn't work out :( wasn't aerodynamic and didn't flap its wings just went straight to the ground
Edit 2: Tried making the Jetstream (another 1 minute plane) and it came out well! Mine is INCREDIBLY asymmetrical and still flies better than any other plane I've made other than the Mystic!
Edit 3: Tried making the Advanced Elanus and I made it! But it's a little shoddy and much tougher for sure. Looks cool but it doesn't glide anywhere near as good as in the video (I guess you really need to perfect it.)
I've been making the original version of this, the Nakamura Lock, since seeing it in a book as a child. I messed with tons of "world record distance" designs as a kid but this design just always came out the most consistent and had great performance. My favorite part is just the simplicity of it.
This has been my go-to design since the 1980s but I never knew what it was called. Easy to build, consistently good flight characteristics. And you can slightly bend the "elevons" to get different flight patterns.
The Nakamura Lock - thank you for the name! - that's the one I learned when I was a child in Russia in early 1990's - I thought this was the default way to make an paper airplane.
For half of the video I was thinking this was the airplane I learned to do in my childhood but later on I saw the nice final tweaks, its very nice given the time you put.
I have a story to share. In 1978 as a preteen, my mother made me take piano lessons. God bless her for trying. Anyway, while waiting for my class in the lobby of the music school, I would often make paper airplanes. One day, an older gentleman came over and said that he wanted to gift me something. What he gave me was his copy of "The great international paper airplane book". And remains one of my cherished books or really possessions. But I'm getting older now and feel that the time has come for me to find a 13-year-old worthy of this gift. But it's quite a leap of faith, for me anyway, to convey such a gift.
In first grade, visible from my assigned lunch seat in the cafeteria, was a yellowing paper airplane on top of an exposed ventilation duct. It was there for a few years, too.
I have a similar story. I opened a drawer at my grandma's place and found an old copy of "The World Record Paper Airplane Book" that had been there for years. I folded airplanes for years and years. Even as a grown-up, I impressed some people by throwing a long-flighted plane into a stadium field while waiting for a concert.
I have a copy of this!! It is one of my favorite books on paper airplanes. Great designs, great layout… I’ve occasionally tried modifying some of them to be made out of balsa with various levels of success.
I just don't know if it would work well as a library book, since the pages are meant to be cut out and folded up into planes. Of course, a responsible child would refrain from doing so and just copy the designs onto their own sheets of paper.
I was reminded of this book immediately! A savior for a boring afternoon. It was like knowing how to tie elaborate knots. You learned some killer designs that made you king of the paper airplane at school.
Yup. In 7th grade during recess we made airplanes. One day I made a Barnaby and threw it up in the air. It caught an updraft and just disappeared into the clouds. With that, I became a paper airplane legend at school.
When I would visit my grandmother as a kid, my parents wouldn't let me bring a game console with me, and she lived in the middle of nowhere so I would get bored pretty easily.
One summer, I had brought a book on how to make different paper airplanes. My grandmother had this huge crate of dot matrix printer paper [1] that I was given freedom to use to my heart's content.
I made hundreds of planes, of varying quality. I even did quasi-scientific tests to see which ones would fly farther, and I used a rubber band extended to the same length each time to try and ensure I was applying roughly the same amount of force in each launch.
I look back at that time pretty fondly. It was the only time in my life that I actually had fun visiting my grandmother's house.
[1] Even at the time this was somewhat outdated; she had a normal inkjet printer at the time so the paper was basically useless as printer paper.
I couldn’t use the website because closing the “sign up for our email list” does a full page refresh. Then it popped up again even though I had already dismissed it. When I tried dismissing it a second time the pate crashed.
My dad worked overtime in the evening a fair bit. He'd often bring me when I was a young teen. The building was several stories tall with a huge open central core, just a flight of stairs on one end.
I'd go to the top floor, take a bunch of paper from the printer room and fold planes, and send them out into the central space. Go back, tweak the design or try something new, launch again.
Don't think I came up with any good designs, but I had a lot of fun trying various ideas.
Adding my own story: Foldable Flight, the YouTube channel, is what allowed me to cope with Covid lockdowns with a five year old; every day we would sit together for at least an hour and fold increasingly sophisticated paper aeroplanes together.
My son is now 11 and he still folds, has mastered advanced origami skills, and also has organised four yearly paper aeroplane competitions. All down to Kyle Boyer and his Foldable Flight channel.
Somewhat off-topic, but this summer I was at a conference where Lufthansa was a vendor and had a contest: Whoever could take their brochure for working in their engineering group and turn it into an airplane that flys at least 10 meters got a Lufthansa plushie.
The person who got the farthest got some extra prize. I wish I'd know about this resource then!
Yeah, it is easy to try to correct the situation as an adult afterwards. This was just an account of my feelings then.
And as I mentioned below - maybe exactly this was in the way from making the best paper plane ever, that could fly all the way to my neighbour? What did I know?
I sort of had the same issue, eventually went to a small local printing company.
They had loads of scrap paper in all possible colours.
They were very nice to me (I was a kid so that helps I guess), and I got a load of scrap paper for free. They even cut a lot of it in square size.
This supply lasted me for many many years of folding pleasure.
My technique was always 1) fold along the line you want to cut (makes it straight—maybe parallel if you have a good eye), 2) use your tongue to wet the creased edge, 3) open and re-fold along the same crease but for the opposite side (valley becomes mountain fold), 4) wet the creased edge again… It was easy enough to tear along the fold at that point.
The instructions were just there and I was certain it was the best plane ever if I just had the right paper format. And that they failed had nothing to do with my folding skills.
Cool! I had "The World Record Paper Airplane Book" when I was a kid and loved it. Sorry to see so many on here had to deal with paper mismatches. Fortunately The World Record Paper Airplane Book came with colorful paper for each plane you could tear out of the back.
Love these types of businesses. Do one thing great, consistently, and be nearly obsessive. Deliver the primary value (the joy of exploring paper airplane designs through tutorial videos) for free, but make it super easy for people to buy the upgrade (a sweet book of paper airplanes with cool paper designs).
I've always been more partial to the Ring Wing paper plane https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/resources/lesson-plan/the-ring-... Easy to make, has a stable flight profile, and is relatively hard to damage as the reinforced leading edge is the typical impact site.
It would be nicer if the paper used in the videos were different color on each side. Maybe even checkered?
I folded the Vanguard (https://www.foldableflight.com/planes/vanguard), can attest that it’s relatively easy, looks great (kiddo loves it) and flies better than any plane I have previously folded.
Nothing will ever replace Campbell Morris' Advanced Paper Aircraft Construction volumes 1-3 (or was it 4) for me, but this looks modern and ideal for young and aspiring ballistic cellulose aeronautical engineers.
My parents subscribed to several magazines when I was a kid and any time a new one arrived I would shake out the subscription signup mail cards and make paper airplanes. They were small but something about the thickness of the paper made it very satisfying to fold and the planes fly very well.
I guess those cards must still exist but it has been ages since I have read a real magazine. I had a couple of dumb subscriptions in college but do not think I have ever had any since. Should consider it for our kids and to get me off my phone.
That's a cool website. Is there a benchmark for these? I noticed some of these have scores ("Flies over x feet!") and some don't.
Mostly I'm just curious, how well does the standard crappy paper airplane fly, which every kid makes in school, how well does it fly relative to some of these world record winners? (Some of which have a lot more folds and measuring and tape than I was expecting!)
Click on the first design, only way to learn how to fold is with a 10 minute YouTube video with plenty of the usual padding to get it to 10 minutes+ and "if you don't have the template" spread throughout.
So basically just buy the $35 worth of books and templates they're selling if you actually want to do this instead of playing and pausing a YT video a hundred times to get through this.
I think I'll fire up Publisher '97 and relive my paper plane memories.
Come on! They're selling you books in the $20 range and using free (if slightly tedious) videos to promote said books in a polite and non-pushy way. I can't believe this upsets people!
Yes. Personal anecdote. I won the 1978 UCLA paper airplane contest by exactly this method.
There was a good design floating around (locally?) called a Pasquali [1]. In the couple of hours before the contest. I folded about a dozen of the design and tested them. The individual plane that flew best is the one that I flew in the contest.
(If you happen to know the UCLA campus, the plane was launched from the top of Boelter Hall -- about 3 floors up from memory. It flew all the way across the Engineering Quad to the raised courtyard between the Geology and Chemistry buildings.)
[1] If anybody here happens to know of this design, I've forgotten all of the details other than the name. I'd love to recover it! Sadly, the actual paper airplane is long lost.
My son watched a ton of this at age ~8 or so. He built some really crazy stuff from memory and our house was full of great designs for like a year. Pretty great channel imo.
Scrolled down the page, saw this "Very Easy" 1 minute plane
https://www.foldableflight.com/planes/mystic
Started watching the video not planning on actually making it, saw that it is done with A4 paper and grabbed a random sheet at my desk to follow along. The pocket felt like a nice "a-ha!" moment. As someone who only knew the "naive" way to make paper airplanes from A4 paper, this is the best performing and prettiest paper airplane I've made in my life! It almost feels like it's not real how smoothly it stays straight in the air compared to all my paper airplanes in childhood.
Edit: Tried making the flapping wings AeroDactyl but it didn't work out :( wasn't aerodynamic and didn't flap its wings just went straight to the ground
Edit 2: Tried making the Jetstream (another 1 minute plane) and it came out well! Mine is INCREDIBLY asymmetrical and still flies better than any other plane I've made other than the Mystic!
Edit 3: Tried making the Advanced Elanus and I made it! But it's a little shoddy and much tougher for sure. Looks cool but it doesn't glide anywhere near as good as in the video (I guess you really need to perfect it.)
Final edit: My planes :) https://i.imgur.com/xnMdzJv.jpeg
I've been making the original version of this, the Nakamura Lock, since seeing it in a book as a child. I messed with tons of "world record distance" designs as a kid but this design just always came out the most consistent and had great performance. My favorite part is just the simplicity of it.
This has been my go-to design since the 1980s but I never knew what it was called. Easy to build, consistently good flight characteristics. And you can slightly bend the "elevons" to get different flight patterns.
The Nakamura Lock - thank you for the name! - that's the one I learned when I was a child in Russia in early 1990's - I thought this was the default way to make an paper airplane.
> https://www.foldableflight.com/planes/mystic
For half of the video I was thinking this was the airplane I learned to do in my childhood but later on I saw the nice final tweaks, its very nice given the time you put.
Wow, just made one. She flies very smooth!
I haven't made a plane in a long time, so I don't have much frame of reference.
But for comparison I tried making another one, a "naive" plane the way I used to, and it just "reverse nosedived" straight into the ceiling.
Is there a way to see the instructions for it?
The page embeds this instruction video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ocKG4Ymm5o
I guess the written instructions are included in the ebook sold on the same website.
Ah, annoying. At least it's short, I don't have to put up with him yattering away in some foreign language for too long.
Took less than ten minutes: https://mystic-paper-plane-guide.ftyqeebp.chatgpt.site/
looks identical to a paper airplane I was making 40+ years ago. fuzzy if any tiny diffs or not
Related: "https://www.foldnfly.com/"
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Thanks! https://foldnfly.com is so much better than the spammy nonsense linked in tfa.
That site completely blocks you if you use an Adblock though.
Looked pretty good until the anti-ad-blocker message blocked the entire content of the site.
I have a story to share. In 1978 as a preteen, my mother made me take piano lessons. God bless her for trying. Anyway, while waiting for my class in the lobby of the music school, I would often make paper airplanes. One day, an older gentleman came over and said that he wanted to gift me something. What he gave me was his copy of "The great international paper airplane book". And remains one of my cherished books or really possessions. But I'm getting older now and feel that the time has come for me to find a 13-year-old worthy of this gift. But it's quite a leap of faith, for me anyway, to convey such a gift.
https://archive.org/details/greatinternation00jerr/mode/1up
In first grade, visible from my assigned lunch seat in the cafeteria, was a yellowing paper airplane on top of an exposed ventilation duct. It was there for a few years, too.
I have a similar story. I opened a drawer at my grandma's place and found an old copy of "The World Record Paper Airplane Book" that had been there for years. I folded airplanes for years and years. Even as a grown-up, I impressed some people by throwing a long-flighted plane into a stadium field while waiting for a concert.
I have a copy of this!! It is one of my favorite books on paper airplanes. Great designs, great layout… I’ve occasionally tried modifying some of them to be made out of balsa with various levels of success.
I'd advise donating to a library if you could fine one. It is difficult to find someone with the aptitude.
I just don't know if it would work well as a library book, since the pages are meant to be cut out and folded up into planes. Of course, a responsible child would refrain from doing so and just copy the designs onto their own sheets of paper.
Library will just sell it in their book sale.
yes. most libraries do not actually accept donations for circulation, so ask before you donate
I was reminded of this book immediately! A savior for a boring afternoon. It was like knowing how to tie elaborate knots. You learned some killer designs that made you king of the paper airplane at school.
Yup. In 7th grade during recess we made airplanes. One day I made a Barnaby and threw it up in the air. It caught an updraft and just disappeared into the clouds. With that, I became a paper airplane legend at school.
Wow! As a kid I borrowed this book from my local library again and again over a couple years. So many good planes in there.
Thanks for reminding me of it
When I would visit my grandmother as a kid, my parents wouldn't let me bring a game console with me, and she lived in the middle of nowhere so I would get bored pretty easily.
One summer, I had brought a book on how to make different paper airplanes. My grandmother had this huge crate of dot matrix printer paper [1] that I was given freedom to use to my heart's content.
I made hundreds of planes, of varying quality. I even did quasi-scientific tests to see which ones would fly farther, and I used a rubber band extended to the same length each time to try and ensure I was applying roughly the same amount of force in each launch.
I look back at that time pretty fondly. It was the only time in my life that I actually had fun visiting my grandmother's house.
[1] Even at the time this was somewhat outdated; she had a normal inkjet printer at the time so the paper was basically useless as printer paper.
I couldn’t use the website because closing the “sign up for our email list” does a full page refresh. Then it popped up again even though I had already dismissed it. When I tried dismissing it a second time the pate crashed.
My dad worked overtime in the evening a fair bit. He'd often bring me when I was a young teen. The building was several stories tall with a huge open central core, just a flight of stairs on one end.
I'd go to the top floor, take a bunch of paper from the printer room and fold planes, and send them out into the central space. Go back, tweak the design or try something new, launch again.
Don't think I came up with any good designs, but I had a lot of fun trying various ideas.
Wouldn't have expected 40min video to fold an airplane: https://www.foldableflight.com/planes/lancer!
And they dont even throw it at the end...I guess these are real aircraft engineers
@2:13, there's some test flight (?) that looks engineer-ish
They throw it in the beginning at 2:13
Adding my own story: Foldable Flight, the YouTube channel, is what allowed me to cope with Covid lockdowns with a five year old; every day we would sit together for at least an hour and fold increasingly sophisticated paper aeroplanes together.
My son is now 11 and he still folds, has mastered advanced origami skills, and also has organised four yearly paper aeroplane competitions. All down to Kyle Boyer and his Foldable Flight channel.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you Kyle!
Somewhat off-topic, but this summer I was at a conference where Lufthansa was a vendor and had a contest: Whoever could take their brochure for working in their engineering group and turn it into an airplane that flys at least 10 meters got a Lufthansa plushie.
The person who got the farthest got some extra prize. I wish I'd know about this resource then!
I had a book for this when I was a kid, but since I lived in Europe, all I had was A4 format paper and most models were for Letter or folio format!
Obviously the book was translated from US.
I don't remember how bad it was in practice but I remember it made me sad.
How I felt not having square origami paper as a kid.
(It's okay, I learned immediately how to rectify, uh, squarify, the situation.)
Yeah, it is easy to try to correct the situation as an adult afterwards. This was just an account of my feelings then.
And as I mentioned below - maybe exactly this was in the way from making the best paper plane ever, that could fly all the way to my neighbour? What did I know?
I sort of had the same issue, eventually went to a small local printing company. They had loads of scrap paper in all possible colours. They were very nice to me (I was a kid so that helps I guess), and I got a load of scrap paper for free. They even cut a lot of it in square size. This supply lasted me for many many years of folding pleasure.
Was getting your parents to explain proportion and take scissors to a sheet not an option?
Interestingly, paper A4 wide (210mm?) by letter tall (11") is a thing in the TeX community.
Cutting paper is annoying to get straight without a paper cutter.
That a4 x 11" document size prints correctly on A4 or letter without scaling or cropping (the margins just change)
Squaring is at least pretty easy. Fold diagonally, fold where the edge crosses the paper, crease back-and-forth until it tears easily.
> take scissors to a sheet not an option?
My experience is that it is quite difficult to cut the sheet precisely enough if you just use a normal pair of scissors.
My technique was always 1) fold along the line you want to cut (makes it straight—maybe parallel if you have a good eye), 2) use your tongue to wet the creased edge, 3) open and re-fold along the same crease but for the opposite side (valley becomes mountain fold), 4) wet the creased edge again… It was easy enough to tear along the fold at that point.
Obviously just an anecdote.
The instructions were just there and I was certain it was the best plane ever if I just had the right paper format. And that they failed had nothing to do with my folding skills.
Cool! I had "The World Record Paper Airplane Book" when I was a kid and loved it. Sorry to see so many on here had to deal with paper mismatches. Fortunately The World Record Paper Airplane Book came with colorful paper for each plane you could tear out of the back.
Here's the revised and expanded edition: https://www.amazon.com/World-Record-Paper-Airplane-Airplanes...
And here's the original if you want a hit of nostalgia: https://paperace.com/ken-blackburn-four-times-world-record-h...
Once made a paper airplane they called "the best paper airplane in the world" and threw it off a high spot in my city.
It flew so long in the same spot that Japanese tourists stopped and took pictures of it.
Love these types of businesses. Do one thing great, consistently, and be nearly obsessive. Deliver the primary value (the joy of exploring paper airplane designs through tutorial videos) for free, but make it super easy for people to buy the upgrade (a sweet book of paper airplanes with cool paper designs).
Wish every business was this simple.
Is this not just a reskin of https://foldnfly.com/ ?
Their YouTube channel has 750k subscribers and content going back 7 years. I don't think so.
I've always been more partial to the Ring Wing paper plane https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/resources/lesson-plan/the-ring-... Easy to make, has a stable flight profile, and is relatively hard to damage as the reinforced leading edge is the typical impact site.
It would be nicer if the paper used in the videos were different color on each side. Maybe even checkered?
I folded the Vanguard (https://www.foldableflight.com/planes/vanguard), can attest that it’s relatively easy, looks great (kiddo loves it) and flies better than any plane I have previously folded.
Nothing will ever replace Campbell Morris' Advanced Paper Aircraft Construction volumes 1-3 (or was it 4) for me, but this looks modern and ideal for young and aspiring ballistic cellulose aeronautical engineers.
My parents subscribed to several magazines when I was a kid and any time a new one arrived I would shake out the subscription signup mail cards and make paper airplanes. They were small but something about the thickness of the paper made it very satisfying to fold and the planes fly very well.
I guess those cards must still exist but it has been ages since I have read a real magazine. I had a couple of dumb subscriptions in college but do not think I have ever had any since. Should consider it for our kids and to get me off my phone.
That's a cool website. Is there a benchmark for these? I noticed some of these have scores ("Flies over x feet!") and some don't.
Mostly I'm just curious, how well does the standard crappy paper airplane fly, which every kid makes in school, how well does it fly relative to some of these world record winners? (Some of which have a lot more folds and measuring and tape than I was expecting!)
Click on the first design, only way to learn how to fold is with a 10 minute YouTube video with plenty of the usual padding to get it to 10 minutes+ and "if you don't have the template" spread throughout.
So basically just buy the $35 worth of books and templates they're selling if you actually want to do this instead of playing and pausing a YT video a hundred times to get through this.
I think I'll fire up Publisher '97 and relive my paper plane memories.
I'd watch a 10+ min video on Publisher '97!
Rather sad at work that it is no longer available to subscription folks.
Come on! They're selling you books in the $20 range and using free (if slightly tedious) videos to promote said books in a polite and non-pushy way. I can't believe this upsets people!
- Airplane name isn't a link (only the image)
- Can't sort the airplanes
- Instructions are video only
Scrape, AI modify, extract text, release new product.
Just had a nostalgic flashback
The Greatest Paper Airplanes: https://archive.org/details/PAPERAIR
In hindsight, folding paper airplanes as a kid was the first testbench in rapid prototyping, and a forerunner to the fail fast philosophy.
Yes. Personal anecdote. I won the 1978 UCLA paper airplane contest by exactly this method.
There was a good design floating around (locally?) called a Pasquali [1]. In the couple of hours before the contest. I folded about a dozen of the design and tested them. The individual plane that flew best is the one that I flew in the contest.
(If you happen to know the UCLA campus, the plane was launched from the top of Boelter Hall -- about 3 floors up from memory. It flew all the way across the Engineering Quad to the raised courtyard between the Geology and Chemistry buildings.)
[1] If anybody here happens to know of this design, I've forgotten all of the details other than the name. I'd love to recover it! Sadly, the actual paper airplane is long lost.
- Annoying mail popup that returns after being closed and is not remembered on refresh
- Every action takes 3-10 seconds, including pressing on regular ass links
- There's a big yellow button "Fold planes" on main page that redirects you to the main page?
- Login is a blue text on blue background
- You have to click on the image of the plane to get to it's page, clicking on text doesn't work (small thing, but very unintuitive)
Is there something wrong with my browser, or it's a website?
Same! When I encountered the mail popup it looked like I had accidentally drag-selected the entire website, and got extremely confused
I wasn’t patient enough to go past that first one.
The mail popup crashed my browser (safari on iOS)
Crashed my browser.
Get an adblocker like a normal person.
I use uBlock Origin on Firefox. Makes no difference.
Too bad its just a bunch of youtube videos. Still cool!
The first thing on the page is the book they sell!
Effective marketing, since the first thing I thought was "$20? Unusual white elephant gift, I may have to get this"
If you're interested the link to the other related site has more step by step instructions: https://www.foldnfly.com/#/1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-1
As a father of 4 kids (which of them 3 are boys) this is amazing. Will start trying some new plane design tonight !
Intermediate shows up twice for some reason.
Some reason being the AI messed up?
My 6 yr olds favourite website - pretty cool to see it here. The book was great gift for him as well.
Impressive and a bit uncanny, since I was just looking for something like this just yesterday, to help the kids fold.
Going to use this with my kid. Cheers
I’ve been folding A LOT of paper airplanes with my 3-year-old lately so this is perfect timing!
Cool, there's a bunch of designs I've never seen before.
Some really fascinating designs in there. I might have to have a go at making the Quill!
This needs a frontier curve for the planes.
My son watched a ton of this at age ~8 or so. He built some really crazy stuff from memory and our house was full of great designs for like a year. Pretty great channel imo.