That's an interesting idea. Maybe you purchase a property and set up a big package dump thing for delivery drivers, have a webcam in the deliveries room and another in the main room, and you run 30 days of random stuff being delivered? Everythingn delivered must be assembled and added to the room?
Not today's internet. But there was a time when people on the internet as a rule were not jerks. Unfortunately it now serves mainly as a conduit to connect various jerk-groups into globe spanning entities. But it wasn't always so.
People already basically do this - big twitch streamers and YouTubers get overwhelmed with being sent random stuff, there’s tons of videos where they open a bunch of them up. It’s not a living room, but it’s not far off the concept.
Beautifully amazing. Though I never got a chance to send a prompt, as all the rooms appear full to me. It's a bit frustrating to have no indication whether you're going to be in a queue, or if it's just random chance.
Thanks! Sorry about that I didn't expect so much usage, and with my 300 dollars of cloud credit I dont want to add more rooms cuz this is already only going to last the afternoon.
The queue is FIFO and resets when the round does, if you get in it, it adds a place above the text box letting you know your current order in the queue.
thanks :) sometimes I wish I had more valuable ideas but I'm just an antenna transmitting whatever my brain is receiving. my brain wishes it was 2005 and the internet didn't suck
Make a few mini game versions, eg rooms of 20, everyone has 10 seconds to write something, 5 seconds to vote in which goes in, person with most voted-in things wins the round and/or gets to set the base pic for the new room. Rotating or random themes for the sorts of things you can suggest, edit wars where teams have to get something edited towards their end-state goal, while the other team is promoted edits for something else.
A bunch of game modes like this, freemium ad supported where paid versions or in game currency lets you setup custom games, private rooms, “super prompt” power where your prompt gets 2x the weigh.
theres a btc address in the about page if anyone wants to donate some btc for compute or email if someone at a cloud provider wants to donate some inference :)
It's weird to me that I've been using the internet for 30 years, and there's still no convenient way to be able to just chip in 20c for something. Paying anything is still a big clunky process.
that might happen eventually but it also might be too crappy to charge for. its about to go back up in the next 5 mins thanks to a generous hn reader. I do think
Many right people definitely already have. They are waiting for your next move … one or two may help ferry you across the channel but I would expect they are mainly waiting for your next move! Get busy.
The biggest issue you have right now is that it's far too easy to completely replace the original room by deliberately or accidentally floodfilling it out of existence.
I'd recommend several possible methods to fix this:
1. Set a MIN_ORIGINAL_IMAGE as a percentage - though it'll have to be a perceptual check since Nano degrades the original image. When it falls below this value, reset the counter.
2. Setup an intermediary LLM to determine if the user's instructions are "malicious"
3. Add system instructions to Nano Banana that coerce user prompts to only allow them to fill in a "portion" of the original image
Hey thanks for the notes. This was previously using the google API which was failing much faster and not degrading the quality over edits to this degree. I hastily switched to fal.ai and it's a lot jankier rn. I'll be digging into this tonight, despite likely running out of credits again in the next 24 hours lol.
Imo seeing the janky api made me realize that a lot of the magic is still there even when it goes awful.
Error: Gemini error 429: { "error": { "code": 429, "message": "You exceeded your current quota, please check your plan and billing details. For more information on this error, head to: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits.\n* Quota exceeded for metric: generativelanguage.googleapis.com/generate_reques
I miss when if someone got too heated, I could pull the "I'm literally a child, maybe I should call the company the whois info is showing for your IP and tell them their sysadmin is acting like one" card.
(Imagine getting owned that hard by a teenager. Modern internet just can't compare since you can just say the most vile shit under your real name with zero consequence apparently.)
updating it with a gallery soon. its an empty room that everyone sees, u can collab on edits 1 prompt at a time. at 20 edits the room resets and it plays a timeline of the edits.
I just switched api providers working on sorting that out. I think it's mostly when the api won't process it for safety reasons. With the new provider the room is getting stuck occasionally when the content gets a lil risqué.
Im str8 pushing to prod so we will see if it gets better or worse
update coming in the next hour. unfortunately many of the old rooms are gone but someone donated some $ for compute. it'll be back online until the internet drains it. Gallery coming soon.
:D love to hear that, the new api is a bit jankier and slower but it's back up. 1 more shoutout to the awesome HN reader who donated a bit to keep the compute flowing.
This got me an idea, I wonder if the Internet would pay actually money to order stuff to a real living room
Well do I have a video for you: https://youtu.be/hBP-NzOadL0?si=CilQHOjso4GPn9OT
Looks like the YouTuber paid for everything, though?
That's an interesting idea. Maybe you purchase a property and set up a big package dump thing for delivery drivers, have a webcam in the deliveries room and another in the main room, and you run 30 days of random stuff being delivered? Everythingn delivered must be assembled and added to the room?
I'll order a pallet of 10 000-piece jigsaw puzzles
You could of course try not to be a jerk.
But then it wouldn't be the internet
Not today's internet. But there was a time when people on the internet as a rule were not jerks. Unfortunately it now serves mainly as a conduit to connect various jerk-groups into globe spanning entities. But it wasn't always so.
- <Torvalds enters the room>
'as a rule'.
This is the most unrealistic take in this comment chain so far
this would bring out the best of humanity and the worst of humanity…
Semi related, Random Darknet Shopping bot: https://wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.bitnik.or...
Before opening the link that’s exactly what I thought this was going to be
That’s a twitch channel waiting to go semi viral for a week or two
People already basically do this - big twitch streamers and YouTubers get overwhelmed with being sent random stuff, there’s tons of videos where they open a bunch of them up. It’s not a living room, but it’s not far off the concept.
thats an awesome idea, I misread this the first pass.
Reminds me to go check on floor796.com (yup still expanding!)
That is an amazing piece of work. Somehow reminds me of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights
The Stephen Seagal isn't anywhere near fat enough.
That's the metaverse I imagine from snowcrash
That's amazing.
if u missed its here's a taste/shameless begging for more cloud credit
https://x.com/crapboard/status/1972032724136563164
Create premium object properties that make premium objects more fun maybe. Object properties and rate limits may be enough to get payments flowing in.
add 'sponsor a room' a thing, and it creates a room with your background image
this might be my best direct path to keeping the site funded hmm
Make 'for pay' elements stick around and make it one of those per room for a month or so.
Beautifully amazing. Though I never got a chance to send a prompt, as all the rooms appear full to me. It's a bit frustrating to have no indication whether you're going to be in a queue, or if it's just random chance.
Thanks! Sorry about that I didn't expect so much usage, and with my 300 dollars of cloud credit I dont want to add more rooms cuz this is already only going to last the afternoon.
The queue is FIFO and resets when the round does, if you get in it, it adds a place above the text box letting you know your current order in the queue.
It feels like being 12 on the pre-bubble internet. I must look like my 20yo cat playing with catnip toys.
this is the greatest compliment I can receive, my last project is in the same vein crapboard.com
Crapboard is a delightful "why? why not?"
thanks :) sometimes I wish I had more valuable ideas but I'm just an antenna transmitting whatever my brain is receiving. my brain wishes it was 2005 and the internet didn't suck
your brain is not alone with this wish!
Got here too late so seems like it went viral.
So, it was a really good idea?
it was a really good bad idea
my undergrad econ degree suggests there was more demand than supply
and my dumb ass only creates memetic unsustainable projects that dont have any business model
Time to accept tips and be proud of your experiments. If anything your art is impracting more people than most.
Just be mindful about accidentally ruining the joy you feel in it but turning it into a job.
Impracting is a fine word
def. impractical but has impact upon
Make a few mini game versions, eg rooms of 20, everyone has 10 seconds to write something, 5 seconds to vote in which goes in, person with most voted-in things wins the round and/or gets to set the base pic for the new room. Rotating or random themes for the sorts of things you can suggest, edit wars where teams have to get something edited towards their end-state goal, while the other team is promoted edits for something else.
A bunch of game modes like this, freemium ad supported where paid versions or in game currency lets you setup custom games, private rooms, “super prompt” power where your prompt gets 2x the weigh.
That makes them better.
theres a btc address in the about page if anyone wants to donate some btc for compute or email if someone at a cloud provider wants to donate some inference :)
Venmo? PayPal? cashapp?
@Michael-bock on venmo I can find more ways to beg if needed.
It'd be nice to have more concurrent rooms, there's no way to riff off what's already in the room when the queue fills up in the first few seconds.
yeah I feel u but its already only going to last a few hours unless someone can appeal the powerful logank to give me more cloud credit :(
Million dollar homepage vibes, good stuff!
Just charge to put something in the room. Problem solved. People pay for less.
It's weird to me that I've been using the internet for 30 years, and there's still no convenient way to be able to just chip in 20c for something. Paying anything is still a big clunky process.
However, there is a way to tell you that you haven't paid! (402 Payment Required)
This is what web3 in autumn 2021 was said to solve (with "gas").
that might happen eventually but it also might be too crappy to charge for. its about to go back up in the next 5 mins thanks to a generous hn reader. I do think
I believe you have discovered a good balance of crap and potential. Pretend you are Markus Persson and this is your first Minecraft prototype.
If you go viral, you could charge companies, not users, e.g., a LiMu Emu product placement ;)
I hope the right person sees this :)
Many right people definitely already have. They are waiting for your next move … one or two may help ferry you across the channel but I would expect they are mainly waiting for your next move! Get busy.
The biggest issue you have right now is that it's far too easy to completely replace the original room by deliberately or accidentally floodfilling it out of existence.
I'd recommend several possible methods to fix this:
1. Set a MIN_ORIGINAL_IMAGE as a percentage - though it'll have to be a perceptual check since Nano degrades the original image. When it falls below this value, reset the counter.
2. Setup an intermediary LLM to determine if the user's instructions are "malicious"
3. Add system instructions to Nano Banana that coerce user prompts to only allow them to fill in a "portion" of the original image
Hey thanks for the notes. This was previously using the google API which was failing much faster and not degrading the quality over edits to this degree. I hastily switched to fal.ai and it's a lot jankier rn. I'll be digging into this tonight, despite likely running out of credits again in the next 24 hours lol.
Imo seeing the janky api made me realize that a lot of the magic is still there even when it goes awful.
I saw this too. Probably sharing this on HN overwhelmed all his Gemini credits. RIP :(
He got Slashdotted XD
Memories of the tiny, bespoke internet and the one-time largest aggregator of happenings.
I miss when if someone got too heated, I could pull the "I'm literally a child, maybe I should call the company the whois info is showing for your IP and tell them their sysadmin is acting like one" card.
(Imagine getting owned that hard by a teenager. Modern internet just can't compare since you can just say the most vile shit under your real name with zero consequence apparently.)
Score: 5 Nostalgic
What was AI used for in this ? not able to access the room right now
-- The room is now closed for the night. Come back soon.
@OFFICIALLOGANK PLEASE KEEP THE NOSTALGIA FLOWING
It's back!
the api change kinda made it sloppy im trying to sort it out
429... sums up the entire AI industry
I was late to the party and it’s just debris now.
Could anyone who saw it explain what it was?
updating it with a gallery soon. its an empty room that everyone sees, u can collab on edits 1 prompt at a time. at 20 edits the room resets and it plays a timeline of the edits.
The empty room looks like one that I painted once.
Well, twice really it was two coats ;)
Ok OP we need to link up and make this in 3D.
shoot me an email! hi@theroom.lol
… iiiit's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.
I'm just gonna assume that by the time I see this comment, it's already too late.
yeah it went quick :( I am praying for the compute fairy to contact me
What does it mean I'm getting "unprocessable entity" ?
I just switched api providers working on sorting that out. I think it's mostly when the api won't process it for safety reasons. With the new provider the room is getting stuck occasionally when the content gets a lil risqué.
Im str8 pushing to prod so we will see if it gets better or worse
It's an HTTP 422 code. Some web frameworks use for validation errors, like fields containing prohibited values.
Depending on the application, the incorrect content type on a file would be considered a validation error, instead of a bad upload.
Fun bit of trivia: 422 was originally a WebDAV code, but frameworks like Ruby on Rails started using it for validation errors in forms.
Pay to open this room option. Allow a sponsor URL.
Do you have a gallery of the additions? Or the last version?
update coming in the next hour. unfortunately many of the old rooms are gone but someone donated some $ for compute. it'll be back online until the internet drains it. Gallery coming soon.
It would be interesting to let people use their own api key to add to the room (obviously a small audience)
Yeah maybe this will just go up on GitHub for people to host themselves. I like that idea but I don't want to handle peoples keys.
Fantastic! Thank you and congratulations, feels like something Geocities would have had in an alternative universe.
How related is this to SevenThirtyEight or whatever that was?
Mostly what I see is cutesy anime characters. I was hoping for weirder...
It was better earlier. Its being dominated by a few users by now, shutting it down for the night and gonna implement some changes to avoid this.
anyone wanna run ads or sponsor inference credits and keep the fun going?
all my prompts are rejected by Gemini under reason IMAGE_SAFETY :(
No fun allowed!
It's like the million dollar homepage
What a time to be alive.
RIP your OpenAI bill
google cloud trial credits are gonna run out in a few hours. maybe google will be moved to give me a little more credit to power internet nostalgia :D
RIP
It’s Gemini for what it’s worth
la plus ça "news for nerds, stuff that matters", la plus c'est la même "front page of the internet"
This is so so good lol...
:D love to hear that, the new api is a bit jankier and slower but it's back up. 1 more shoutout to the awesome HN reader who donated a bit to keep the compute flowing.
...and the credits are used up
it was fun while it lasted
I felt like I was back in 2005 all over again. Thanks OP, this was magical.
thanks for joining in. I wish I could find someone to sponsor the inference
hug of death?
yeah I ran through my cloud credits but a generous soul here just sent a venmo donation. once my rate limits are raised it'll be back.
Oh no good tool goes unexperimented as weaponry. Kudos for the try. See you in about 7 hours. [R]age Board for the Elites gotta represent ya hurr?