River (the software author) worked on this during his time at the Recurse Center and it’s been amazing to see him develop it all from scratch in C. (I contributed 2.5 lines of code on the web deployment/firebase side).
He’s a friend, but I am very unbiased in saying that the sample-rate execution of the entire grid seems like an incredible technical achievement.
One of the craziest (super super noisy but fascinating to watch) grids uses just a few “operators” that generate random operators and random values, and place them at random location.
That grid runs - easily! in the browser!! - at 1000 bpm. Forget 60 fps :)
I’ll update my comment linking to this patch so you can take a listen. It’s stunning, organic and very punk.
I was saying that in jest, ha. More like 2.5% of the code.
Very briefly, I contributed the CI pipeline that makes git push build the wasm and deploy it to a micro server that sets the specific required headers. I used the deployment tool I’ve been working on with a friend, which is called Disco.
There was something about wasm/the audio worklet requiring super specific headers - `Cross-Origin-Embedder-Policy: require-corp` … Nothing too complicated.
The other part I contributed is the loading/saving patches to Firebase, which lets people share compositions.
Cool project. I've referred people to Orca before--and the lack of "built in instruments" (and maybe the flow visualization) was a stumbling block. This feels more "consumer friendly" :)
CLAVIER is amazing, the wire system alone is such a huge improvement over ORCA, and it's now feasible to make much larger patches and refactor safely, kudos to River for all the hard work on the polish and quality-of-life.
If you share this link on a public forum like HN you might want to add more than an error message for mobile devices so people might be incentivized to switch to desktop or bookmark it for later.
Can you see if you can serve the static files over cdn, might speed up the site loading speed. claviar.wasm took 4 minutes to load here. 200MBPS connection
In the video, within the first 10 seconds, I should understand the offering of the product by seeing it.
You can get into the details later but right now I've got no idea what's going on here and don't know why I should invest my time in it.
You need to motivate people by showing off the thing.
Also on the phone it just says basically "go away". Once again, show me some video, song, Bandcamp, SoundCloud, something that would motivate me to switch to a desktop.
Apologies for the long video! I didn't want to rush too much as it's supposed to serve as a tutorial.
CLAVIER-36 is a musical instrument, so it will necessarily take some time to master it.
You can jump to 7:14 in the video - https://youtu.be/rIpQmJVMjCA?feature=shared&t=434 - to hear and see how it works. It's a grid based instrument, where you place "operators", or functions on the grid.
That's the 10 second version. The longer version will require a bit of a time investment unfortunately. But it's quite interesting once/if you get into it and start making patches.
Also, if you click OP's link - https://clavier36.com/p/LtZDdcRP3haTWHErgvdM - you should be brought to an example patch. Is that working for you? Unfortunately, a mobile version is not available right now (it would be tricky to port it, without having to dramatically rethink the UI).
River (the software author) worked on this during his time at the Recurse Center and it’s been amazing to see him develop it all from scratch in C. (I contributed 2.5 lines of code on the web deployment/firebase side).
He’s a friend, but I am very unbiased in saying that the sample-rate execution of the entire grid seems like an incredible technical achievement.
One of the craziest (super super noisy but fascinating to watch) grids uses just a few “operators” that generate random operators and random values, and place them at random location.
That grid runs - easily! in the browser!! - at 1000 bpm. Forget 60 fps :)
I’ll update my comment linking to this patch so you can take a listen. It’s stunning, organic and very punk.
I'm curious - was it two and a half lines of code you contributed?
I was saying that in jest, ha. More like 2.5% of the code.
Very briefly, I contributed the CI pipeline that makes git push build the wasm and deploy it to a micro server that sets the specific required headers. I used the deployment tool I’ve been working on with a friend, which is called Disco.
There was something about wasm/the audio worklet requiring super specific headers - `Cross-Origin-Embedder-Policy: require-corp` … Nothing too complicated.
The other part I contributed is the loading/saving patches to Firebase, which lets people share compositions.
But all of the audio, grid, ui is all River’s!
EDIT: sorry, got away for a few hours
This is the patch:
WARNING - GETS SUPER SUPER LOUD https://clavier36.com/p/tEWcc48tFPm8qiyx9ljo WARNING - GETS SUPER SUPER LOUD
Zoom out using your mouse wheel/trackpad to see it all. It's realllly gorgeous if you let it run. But super, super loud at random times :-)
Cool project. I've referred people to Orca before--and the lack of "built in instruments" (and maybe the flow visualization) was a stumbling block. This feels more "consumer friendly" :)
CLAVIER is amazing, the wire system alone is such a huge improvement over ORCA, and it's now feasible to make much larger patches and refactor safely, kudos to River for all the hard work on the polish and quality-of-life.
I was testing MIDI on a prerelease build last weekend and it turned out quite nice: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOUUIfeEQWY/
Excited for more folks to get to play with it!
Looks great, I'll have to play with it this weekend! Has a scent of Orca
https://github.com/hundredrabbits/orca
If you share this link on a public forum like HN you might want to add more than an error message for mobile devices so people might be incentivized to switch to desktop or bookmark it for later.
Otherwise really impressive.
this is a neat project! i know river and he is a very good engineer
Can you see if you can serve the static files over cdn, might speed up the site loading speed. claviar.wasm took 4 minutes to load here. 200MBPS connection
Apologies, I’ll setup a proper CDN and update this message once it’s live. Thanks for the report!
In the video, within the first 10 seconds, I should understand the offering of the product by seeing it.
You can get into the details later but right now I've got no idea what's going on here and don't know why I should invest my time in it.
You need to motivate people by showing off the thing.
Also on the phone it just says basically "go away". Once again, show me some video, song, Bandcamp, SoundCloud, something that would motivate me to switch to a desktop.
Apologies for the long video! I didn't want to rush too much as it's supposed to serve as a tutorial.
CLAVIER-36 is a musical instrument, so it will necessarily take some time to master it.
You can jump to 7:14 in the video - https://youtu.be/rIpQmJVMjCA?feature=shared&t=434 - to hear and see how it works. It's a grid based instrument, where you place "operators", or functions on the grid.
That's the 10 second version. The longer version will require a bit of a time investment unfortunately. But it's quite interesting once/if you get into it and start making patches.
@rwhaling posted one of his compositions: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOUUIfeEQWY/ hopefully that's more what you were looking for?
Also, if you click OP's link - https://clavier36.com/p/LtZDdcRP3haTWHErgvdM - you should be brought to an example patch. Is that working for you? Unfortunately, a mobile version is not available right now (it would be tricky to port it, without having to dramatically rethink the UI).
Cheers
Thanks! Those were just tips and my first impression
Off topic: where did you get the name from? There's a town Clavier (Claviere in French) in the Italian/French alps.
Clavier is keyboard in French and German (Klavier)
36 because, just like base64 uses 64 characters, clavier uses A-Z and 0-9 :-)
An loanword in English, many will recognize it from Bach if nothing else https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Well-Tempered_Clavier
Its nice invention by you may i know is it a software only ya product also you are going to feature ?
I want to run this on a Steam Deck!
Please wishlist it on Steam, it will help get the word out!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3614060/CLAVIER36/
A Steam version is definitely coming - the biggest question re Steam Deck is how to deal with the input..
Do you use/like any other audio software on the Steam Deck?
Wishlisted! Good luck!
See also [0] Ooda and Zoa on iOS and [1] Midinous on Steam
0: https://www.audiosymmetric.com/ooda.html (same person for Zoa) 1: https://midinous.com
It doesn’t seem to load…
Apologies, it may have to do with the server. I’m on it and will update this message once it’s fixed/better. Thanks!
UK and Firefox 128-esr on linux appears to be loading and working ok